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Live Recording with M7CL or PM5D
Via
Dante
Dante
Using Steinberg Cubase 5 / 4 or Nuendo 4
Yamaha Commercial Audio
Live Recording with M7CL or PM5D via Dante
Summary:
This guide will show how quick and easy it is to achieve a high quality, live
multi-track recording using a Yamaha digital mixer, and a Personal Computer.
With the right selection of interface cards and software, an elegant solution
can be built using just one cable between mixing system and PC.
Such a system is ideal for use as a virtual sound-check tool, and to create a
concert archive for later mix-down using Steinberg or other professional
Digital Audio Workstation software.
CONTENTS
Page
Introduction 3
Equipment List 4
Computer Requirements 4
Hardware Setup 5
Word clock 6
Mixer Patching and Direct Outputs 7
Dante Virtual Soundcard setup 9
Dante Controller setup 10
Identify and name devices 10
Network Routing 12
PC Playback via Dante 13
Nuendo 4 / Cubase 4 / Cubase 5 Setup 16
Device Setup 16
Templates 17
Start Recording 19
Playback 20
Playback through PM5D-V2 20
Playback through M7CL 21
Appendix 24
Create a new Nuendo / Cubase Template 24
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Introduction
The live recording solution outlined in this document utilises Dante media
networking technology. It is one of the easiest methods of capturing a live
recording consisting of a large number of audio channels. Using a Yamaha
console such as PM5D or M7CL, it is simple to switch between recording and
playback modes without the need for re-starting the console, re-patching
cables, or changing the word-clock settings.
This guide assumes the reader already has a basic knowledge of Dante
networking and at least a brief experience with “Dante Controller” software.
For more information about Dante, and to download the latest software, user
guides and support FAQs, please visit the website of Audinate, the company
that created Dante:
www.audinate.com.
Typical system for live recording via Dante.
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Equipment List
1. Yamaha digital mixing console such as M7CL or PM5D/PM5D-RH.
2. Up to 4x Dante-MY16-AUD interface cards (maximum of 3 inside
M7CL).
3. One computer. Either:
a. PC running Windows XP (SP3 or later) or Vista (SP1 or later,
32-bit versions only), Intel or AMD Processor (Dual Core or
better) 2GHz minimum, at least 1GB RAM, DVD drive, USB port,
1GB Ethernet port.
b. Mac running OSX version 10.5, Intel Dual Core CPU (or better),
at least 1GB RAM, DVD drive, USB port, 1GB Ethernet port.
4. Steinberg Cubase 4 or Cubase 5 or Nuendo 4 software.
5. Ethernet switch with 1GB ports (a list of tested switches is available at
www.audinate.com)
6. Up to 5x CAT5e cables: one from the computer to the switch, and one
from each Dante card to the switch. Maximum individual cable length
is 100 metres.
Computer Requirements
It is strongly recommended to use a computer with at least 2GHz processing
speed, and at least 2GB RAM. Also a Hard Disk Drive with a speed of
7200rpm or faster is recommended for recording and playback of more than
16 channels at 48kHz 24-bit.
As an example, an Apple MacBook with 2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor
and 2GB memory can easily manage 16-tracks (48kHz 24-bit) of recording
and playback using its built-in HD drive. A PC running Windows XP with a
2.4GHz Intel Core 2 CPU 6600 processor, 2GB of RAM and an Intel
PRO/1000PL network connection can easily manage 64-tracks (48kHz 24-bit)
of recording and playback using a dedicated 7200rpm HD drive.
With regard to disk storage, allow 500MB per hour for each mono track at an
audio quality of 48kHz 24-bit. So for example, 120GB will be able to record
60 tracks for 4 hours. Or for a 2 hour show consisting of 48 tracks, allow
50GB of storage.
Tip:
Disable all network interfaces expect for the one being used with Dante.
That includes disabling any wireless network interface the computer
may have. This will improve the computers’ performance with Dante.
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Hardware Setup
The mixing console (PM5D or M7CL for example) will need to have the
correct MY-cards installed (up to 4x Dante-MY16-AUD). Each card’s Primary
port should be connected to a 1GB port on the Ethernet switch. The Dante-
MY16-AUD card will be identified as an MY16-AT in some mixers when
running at 48kHz, and as an MY8-AE96 when running at 96kHz.
M7CL with 3x Dante-MY16-AUD
PM5D with 4x Dante-MY16-AUD.
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Word Clock
In a Dante network, the Master device will provide an accurate word clock to
the rest of the network. If the Master loses connection or fails, another device
will automatically take over.
So it is recommended to set the mixer to receive word clock from one of the
Slots. Note that Dante-MY16-AUD only supports sample rates of 48kHz and
96kHz. Also note that it will take approximately 20 seconds for a Dante-
MY16-AUD card to synchronise after changing the clock source.
M7CL Word Clock page (SETUP menu).
PM5D Word Clock page (SYS/W.CLOCK menu).
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Mixer Patching & Direct Outputs
1. Switch the Direct Output function on for each channel to be recorded, and
select the Direct Out point. Pre HPF or Pre ATT is the most likely choice,
though Post Fader is also possible with PM5D and M7CL-V2 and V3.
M7CL Direct Out menu
PM5D Direct Out Point page, Input Patch menu.
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2. Patch the Direct Out for each channel to the required Slot Output. It will be
most convenient to use Slot 1 for channels 1-16, Slot 2 for channels 17-32
and so on.
M7CL Direct Out Menu (8 channel view)
PM5D Direct Out Patch page, Input Patch menu.
To save setup time, an example file for PM5D and M7CL containing all the
Direct Out and Patch settings can be downloaded from
http://www.yamahaproaudio.com/training/self_training/index.html
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Dante Virtual Soundcard setup
During the creation of this document, the current version of Dante Virtual
Soundcard was V3.0.1. Please use this or a more recent version if available.
Ensure that both Dante Virtual Soundcard and Dante Controller are installed
on the computer to be used for audio recording. Refer to www.audinate.com
for the latest software, user guides and support FAQs. Note that a license is
required to run Dante Virtual Soundcard. One free license (for one computer
only) is obtained with the purchase of each Dante-MY16-AUD card.
Alternatively a license can be purchased directly from Audinate (see their
website for details).
Connect the computer’s Network port to the 1GB Ethernet switch. Ensure that
the computer’s IP address settings are set to automatic (default settings).
Disable all other network interfaces on the computer, particularly any wireless
interface. This will improve the computers’ performance with Dante.
Before enabling Dante Virtual Soundcard, first select the required audio
format (48kHz, 24-bit for example), and the Dante Latency (keep it at a high
setting for increased reliability with high channel counts). In the Advanced
settings, select the number of channels to be recorded / played back (8 x 8 is
the default). See the Dante Virtual Soundcard’s User Guide for information
about ASIO settings (for Windows operating systems), but it is sensible to use
the highest buffer size and latency for reliable live recording.
Dante Virtual Soundcard
Dante Virtual Soundcard: Advanced and ASIO options
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Enable Dante Virtual Soundcard by clicking on the big button!
Dante Controller setup
During the creation of this document, the current software version of Dante
Controller was V3.0.1. Please use this or a more recent version if available.
Refer to www.audinate.com for the latest software, user guides and support
FAQs.
If you haven’t already done so, connect the computer’s Network port to the
1GB Ethernet switch. Ensure that the computer’s IP address settings are set
to automatic (default settings). Disable all other network interfaces on the
computer, particularly any wireless interface. This will improve the computers’
performance with Dante.
Identify and Name Devices
Dante Controller can run on the same computer that hosts the audio recording
software. Once opened, Dante Controller will automatically discover all the
devices on the network: some MY16-cards and a computer. The first task is
to identify and name each device.
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Dante Controller: Network View [Routing].
The default device names contain a brief description of the device type,
followed by the last few digits of its MAC address. Double-click on a device
name to open the “Device View” window. (or select “Device View” from the
“Device” menu.
Dante Controller: Device View
Click on the “Eye” icon to identify the device. This will cause all the LEDs on
the MY16-card to flash for a while. Then in the “Config” tab, the device can be
given a more appropriate name. (Note that the computer’s name cannot be
modified by Dante Controller). To rename a device, type a new name in the
“Rename Device” field and press [ENTER].
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Dante Controller: Config: Rename Device.
If the Sample Rate of the card needs to be changed (from 48k to 96k for
example), the host console will need to be rebooted for the change to take
effect. The “Reboot” option on the “Config” tab will not be sufficient in this
case.
Network Routing
Once all the devices have been named, the audio routing can be set.
To route all channels from the MY16-cards to the computer, first open the
“Device View” for the computer and select the “Receive” tab. Then in the
“Available Channels” column on the right, highlight channels 1-16 from slot 1
(click on “01”, then hold [shift] and click on “16”), and drag them over to the
receive channels on the left side. Drop onto channel 1.
Dante Controller: Receive tab for Computer.
Next, drag all channels from Slot 2 onto computer channels 17-32, Slot 3 onto
33-48 and Slot 4 (if it exists) onto 49-64.
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Another way to make the routing is from the “Routing” tab of Dante Controller.
Press the [+] buttons to expand the view. Check that the computer is
receiving the correct channels from the MY16-cards. By clicking on the
cross-point box while holding [Ctrl], all available channels are routed between
the selected devices. All the device’s routing is removed by clicking on the
box while holding both [Ctrl] and [shift].
Dante Controller: Routing from Mixer Slots to Computer.
PC Playback via Dante
To allow playback from the PC, Dante Controller can be used to route audio
back to the MY16-cards.
In the “Receive” tab of the Device View, drag computer channels 1-16 from
the “Available Channels” column into the “Receive Channels” for Slot1.
Computer channels 17-32 for Slot2, 33-48 for Slot3 and 49-64 for Slot4 (if it is
used).
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Dante Controller: Receive tab for Slot1.
Again, the routing can be checked and modified in the “Routing” tab.
Dante Controller: Routing from Computer to Mixer Slots.
Now the audio signal flow of the Dante network is represented in the figure
below.
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Dante signal flow for recording and playback.
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Nuendo 4 / Cubase 4 / Cubase 5 Setup
Device Setup
The setup procedures for Nuendo 4 and Cubase 4 / 5 are virtually identical.
The pictures in this section are from Nuendo 4.
After starting Nuendo 4 (or Cubase 4 / 5), open the “Devices” menu, and
select “Device Setup…”
Click on “VST Audio System” in the left column, and select the correct ASIO
Driver for the sound-card on the right side of the window. In this case, select
“Dante Virtual Soundcard--ASIO”.
Then click [OK] to close the window.
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Templates
A Nuendo or Cubase template is a file which contains all relevant set up data
for a project. When opened, it allows the user to instantly start working on a
suitable project without having to configure a long list of settings from different
menus and windows.
A number of templates have been created to accompany this document, for
live recording using Nuendo 4 or Cubase 4 / 5 and the Dante Virtual
Soundcard. (They are free to download from
http://www.yamahaproaudio.com/training/self_training/index.html). There are
templates for 48-track and 64-track recording. Each one will record 48kHz 24-
bit “Wave 64” files. (The “Wave 64” format is able to cope with recording over
long periods of time, creating large file sizes). This audio file type is easy to
transfer between Cubase and Nuendo projects. The file format may need to
be changed to allow compatibility with other audio editing software. More
details are included in the Appendix.
A method for creating a new template is outlined in the Appendix. Here
follows the procedure for opening an existing template:
Paste the required Nuendo 4 templates to the following folder,
depending on your operating system:
a. Windows XP:
C:\Documents and Settings\<user name>\Application
Data\Steinberg\Nuendo 4\templates
b. Windows Vista:
C:\Users\<user name>\AppData\Roaming\Steinberg\Nuendo
4\templates
c. Apple Mac OSX:
Users/<user name>/Library/Preferences/Nuendo 4/templates
There is a shortcut to access these folders, as Windows keeps them
hidden by default: open the “Start” menu, open the “programs” list,
open the “Steinberg Nuendo 4” list, and select “Nuendo Application
Data Folder”.
The Cubase 4 templates should be pasted to a similar location, but in
the “Cubase 4\Templates” folder instead. And Cubase 5 templates in
the “Cubase 5\Templates” folder. The same shortcut to access these
folders is available via the “Start” menu.
To open a template in Cubase 4 or Nuendo 4, open the File menu and select
“New Project”. Then select the required template from the list. Easy!
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Open a New Project in Nuendo 4
With Cubase 5, the “Project Assistant” window will open after selecting “New
Project” from the File menu. There are various categories of template. The
templates placed in the folder described above will appear in the “More”
category.
Open a New Project in Cubase 5
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Start Recording
This procedure is the same for Nuendo 4 and Cubase 4 / 5. The pictures
below show Nuendo 4, but the operation of Cubase 4 / 5 is almost identical.
To prepare for recording, switch on the “Monitor” function for the main folder.
This will turn the speaker icons orange for all the tracks. Then click on the
“Record Enable” button for the folder, so all the “Record Enable” buttons turn
red.
Then, to start recording, click on the “Transport Record” button in the toolbar.
To stop recording, press the [Space] bar on the keyboard (or click the “Stop”
button in the Transport area of the toolbar. Then save the project (select
“Save” in the File menu).
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Playback
Move the play-marker to the required position by clicking in the “time-line”.
Then click the “Play” transport button (or press the [Space] bar).
Playback through PM5D-V2
The mixer’s input channel patch will need to be changed from the internal AD
converters to the digital Slot inputs. But with PM5D-V2, you don’t need to
make a new Patch Library:
Firstly, set up the “VIRTUAL SOUNDCHECK” function, which is found in the
“MIXER SETUP” page of the SYS/W.CLOCK menu. This function temporarily
switches the input signals without affecting the Scene Memories and Patch
Libraries.
Click on the small button with the arrows to open the “VIRTUAL
SOUNDCHECK SETUP” window.
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